Sunday, April 26, 2009

Jesus himself stated that he didn't die on the cross!!have you found that in the Bible??

Jesushimself stated that he didn't die onthe cross.Early Sundaymorning MaryMagdalene went to the sepulchre,which was empty.She saw somebody standing who looked like a gardener.After a conversation,she realized that he was Jesus and wanted to touch him.Jesus said,as recounted in John20:17:"Touch me not,for I am not yet ascended to my Father ..""Touch me not"perhaps because the fresh wound would hurt him. "I am not yet ascended to my Father"means that he was still alive,because when somebody dies he goes back to the CreatorLuke24:36-41:"And as they[the disciples]thus spake,Jesus himself stood in the midst of them,and saith unto them:'Peace be unto you.'But they were terrified and frightened,andsupposed that they had seen a spirit.And he said unto them: 'Why are ye troubled,and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself.Touch me, and see, for a spins hath not flesh and bones,as ye see that I have...

Jesus himself stated that he didn't die on the cross!!have you found that in the Bible??
Matthew 28:5-7 reads, "The angel said to the women, 'Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. Then go quickly and tell his disciples , He has RISEN FROM THE DEAD, and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.' Now I have told you too".





Luke 24:45-49, reads, Then He, (Jesus), openend their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. He told them "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and RISE FROM THE DEAD on the third day, and repentence and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem". - Here, Jesus reinstates it was he who was crucified.





If anyone also wants to read more about Christ's crucifixion and death %26amp; his ressurection, read the book "The Case for Christ", chapter 11. You'll understand that Jesus died on the cross after you read Lee Strobel interview with Alexander Metherell, M.D.,PH.D. Metherell uses his expertise as a physician to describe in vivid detail just what Christ went through, and how He died on the cross. He leaves anyone reading his account convinced that Jesus did die on the cross and wasn't just swooned or faint from what he went through.
Reply:"Hot air" -- a euphemism for ~Southern breeze~?
Reply:That does not state anywhere that Jesus said He didn't die on the cross! He died and rose back from the dead. The Apostles were troubled because they watched Him die and help to lay Him in the tomb, and yet there He was three days later standing before them. People spirits do return to the Father upon death, this is true, BUT, Jesus Christ was more than just a person, He is The manifestation of God in the flesh. He had not returned to the Father, at that time, so that He could show the People that He was and would do just as He said He would do.
Reply:Another person attacked for thinking for himself. Keep researching. These people are going to try to force opinion down your throat. Read it and make up you own mind.
Reply:Michelangelo and the Cross





• Italian government art experts are said to be “90 percent sure” that a sculpture recently found in a monastery in Lebanon is the work of the famous Italian artist Michelangelo. The small wooden carving is said to be worth $2.5 million (U.S.) if it actually is Michelangelo’s work. According to an Associated Press report, “the figure is unusual because it represents Christ with his hands stretched out above his head instead of to the side, as he usually is depicted on the cross.”





Whether the wooden sculpture is the work of the 16th-century artist Michelangelo or not, it illustrates that the impalement of Christ on a cross frame has not always been so certain as Christendom’s leaders today would have people believe. For example, the 16th-century Roman Catholic scholar Justus Lipsius illustrated impalement on an upright stake in his book “De Cruce Liber Primus.” This fits the meaning of the Greek word used in the Bible to describe the impalement of Christ—“stauros”—which “denotes, primarily, an upright pale or stake.”—“An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words,





King James Bible says:





Acts 5:30  The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.


Acts 10:39  And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:


Acts 13:29  And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.
Reply:I THINK YOU ARE REALLY WEAK AT READING OR YOU REALLY HAVE A PAGE MISSING PROBLEM, PLEASE READ AGAIN YOU HAVE MISSED MANY CHAPTER AND STOP SAYING THINGS THAT DONT MAKE SENSE.


I AM CHRISTIAN AND I READ KORAN ALSO AND I REALLY UNDERSTAND IT AND I ALWAYS USE MY COMMON SENSE. BUT I NEVER SAY SOMETHING THAT DOES'NT MAKE SENSE, SO PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZ DONT WASTE YOUR AND OTHER PEOPLES TIME.





CORRECT HISTORICAL ERRORS IN KORAN, BECAUSE WHAT YOU ARE TRAYING TO SAY BY ELEBORATING THE WRONG MEANING OF VERSES FROM BIBLE IS SAID IN KORAN
Reply:That's right.
Reply:follow what ever you want to follow, but stop trying to tell lies on JESUS CHRIST...there will be a day in time that you will find out personally when you bow before HIM and proclaim JESUS CHRIST IS LORD IN THE FLESH!
Reply:Funny thing is, Mary Magdelene was WITNESS to Jesus' death. She knealt at his feet when he died. She and Mary (his mother) washed his body and personally placed his body in the tomb.





So, much like MANY areas of the Qur'ran, your argument is full of hot air.
Reply:This is what is wrong with the world today, people interpreting the Bible for what they believe is "true" not what it truly says. You can't pick and chose where to read, it must be taken as a whole. Jesus tells Mary Magdelene not to touch Him because He had not yet returned to His father. When Jesus died on the cross He went into the pits of hell and conquered it. Then He arose and when Mary Magdelene found Him He had not yet ascended to God in Heaven so He told her not to touch Him. This is clearly in John chapter 20. Further on in verse 26 Jesus tells Thomas to "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe." Jesus did die on the cross.
Reply:If you read these passages 'from the Bible', this should prove that Jesus 'did' die on the cross, otherwise, why would He need to say them?


(1) “And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). Here, Jesus was expressing His feelings of abandonment as God placed the sins of the world on Him – and because of that had to “turn away” from Jesus. As Jesus was feeling that weight of sin, He was feeling separated from God for the only time in all of eternity.


(2) “Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots” (Luke 23:34). Here, Jesus is demonstrating His love and forgiveness by asking God to forgive those who crucified Him.


(3) “And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43). In this passage, Jesus is assuring one of the criminals on the cross that when he died, he will be with Jesus in heaven.
Reply:Luke 23:33, And when they were come to the place which is called Calvary, there they crucified him (Jesus), and the malefactors, one on the right hand,and the other on the left. Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit:AND HAVING SAID THUS, he gave up the ghost (he breathed his last).


These are just a few scriptures where the Crucifixion was recorded; read in more detail in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke %26amp; John. It was also prophesy in the Old Testament.


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