John 14:28Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
1 Timothy 5:21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
John 17:33 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
2 Corinthians 1:3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1 Cor. 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, ...
If God is The Father, and Jesus (and the Holy Spirit), Explain theses verses... Please no opinons, quote it.?
OK...HERE IS THE TRUTH! The word "GOD" in the original Hebrew is plural--One GOD--But more than one Member! You have "Family"--with more than one member in it! GOD IS A FAMILY NAME! You have the Father,Who is Supreme Lawgiver,and you have His Son,The Executive Ruler-King over all that exists! Here is where things go wrong...You will NOT find the word "Trinity" anywhere in your Bible! And the phrase,"These three are one" mentioned in the New Testament was ADDED--It is NOT in the original GREEK! GOD is forming a Family--and He wants YOU and I to be a Royal son or daughter in that Family! READ REVELATION--First 3 Chapters! Don't believe ME! How clever the devil is to BLIND the TRUTH from so many! Perhaps NOW you will see that YOU were born to become a beautiful Royal Daughter of your Creator! Maybe now you can face the future a little better and with a little more HOPE!
Reply:It looks like you do not have a good grasp of the concept of the trinity. Please refer to the link below. then relook your question.
Reply:1st ? in john jesus is speaking to the discipes about him going to die and returning to heaven the holyghost only comes in the picture when jesus was on the cross in john he called the comforter that will guide are heart in the truth because jesus would know longer be in the flesh, so he reveiled this to his disciples. 2nd u have most of the scrip. but if u read the whloe chapter 1by1 u will get it better far as the other scrip. in john there a lot going on jesus is crusifiyed resurrected and returned to the disciples because of unbelief mosty tomas that was called daughting tomas, Jesus done so many sign and mircles that when his time was to die the dis. wasn't ready when he appear to them he told them what to do and to ministry 2by2 to the nation, when jesus spoke of the holyghost an said we would do grater works the he because of the holyspirit. in cor. for example your mother has 3 girls and you all are alike but u all have different mission, offices or purpose your are all her children working to make mom proud the same in the trinity God is father Jesus savior, teacher, alot of things the holyghost is what calm u when your upset or that soft still voice u hear telling u not to do something. the mercy comes in when jesus died for u and my sins, so throuth the blood where saved. tim, explained it the med. is jesus he is are meditor or interser on are behave. cor. also expaines theres one God the ruler or commandor for it all this may sound weird but only through faith can we beleive the bible not are nature eye look through the spirit please the devil comes to detract and deceive us, keep praying and asking ? thats how we learn anything. So please keep doing research also no the bible for your self study to show yourself approved. love star. sorry the spelling is ject up was trying to get this to u,i'm on my way to sleep.
Reply:Quoting John 1:1-9: "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." The Word is Jesus. Therefore, Jesus is with God and is God. The passage goes on to explain how Jesus created all things, something we think of God the Father as doing.
The Trinity is a difficult concept but it kind of makes sense - do we really think that a being as powerful as God would be limited as we are? He is God and therefore uniquely complex.
The best way I wrap my mind around it is to think of water - ice is different from steam, which is different from water. They're not even in the same state yet they are all manifestations of the same substance. They are always H2O. Each person in the Trinity has a different function. They are equal parts but the Father is the head - that's what He is and does.
The other complicating factor is that Jesus is the unique God-man. When He was on earth He divested Himself of some of His power (became a human being.) He had to feel and suffer like us, thus allowing the possibility of temptation. He seems to have been in a different state after His Resurrection - He could walk through walls but still ate fish with His disciples.
If we could fully understand it all, we wouldn't be human.
Reply:your question is what verses say Jesus is God i think.......
matt. 28: 18 'All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.' so He had the authority of God then?
john 14: 6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way the truth and the life, NO ONE comes to the Father except THRU Me." are we just merely going through a man, or a Higher being?
verses im having trouble finding are Jesus is sits at the right hand of the Father, no one else has the priveledge of doing this. If you dishonor the Son the dishonor the Father, if you dishonor the Father you dishonor the Son. The Father and the Son are One......we cant get to God except thru Jesus the Son of God
Reply:Your question is simple.
God the father is our creator.
Jesus the son of man is your physical self
The holy spirit is your inner self?
So when you go to school .
Your physical self go to school.
Now if your inner self did not go to school?
You will come up with this question.
Now if your physical and inner self both go to school.
You will be the son of God.
Reply:Simple enough, it's just like you, a mind, a body and a spirit. They are one and the same, yet they are separate. Don't believe me? Just ask someone bound to a wheelchair.
Reply:If people were intellectually honest they would admit that bible clearly says Jesus is not the father. All this "god is a body %26amp; spirit" business is nonsense and unbiblical. People will ignore what they don't like and come up with all sorts of ideas because they are (((supposed))) to believe what they have been taught.
Reply:The verses explain themselves.
Reply:I am body mind and spirit... so is God.
Reply:remember the woman who has healed because she had faith in JESUS!the same is true when you believe IN JESUS CHRIST,it is not difficult to believe GOD the FATHER and GOD the HOLY SPIRIT.if one is missing in the link of TRUTH,i doubt . . . . .
Reply:In Isaiah 9:6-7, it says, Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given. And what is the name of this son? The "Mighty God" in the next verse.
JESUS CHRIST IS: "THE GOD ALMIGHTY"
Reply:John 10:30-33
"[Jesus said, ] I and the Father are one."
Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"
"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
Jesus said it, so that's good enough for me...
eph514
PS ---
Also see John 1, talk to your pastor, and maybe pick up a scripturally sound book on the subject.
Reply:GOD is not three persons. DE6:4 Mal:2:10 Mr 10:18 Ro. 3:29,30, God is to be exalted above all. Php. 2:10,11.Jesus is Gods first born,used in creating all other things.Re. 3:14 and Col 1:15-17
Reply:I don't believe in the TRINITY like you because it's unbiblical. It actually comes from Paganism.
http://www.thunderministries.com/history...
http://mikeblume.com/pagantr.htm
http://www.sabbatarian.com/Paganism/Heca...
http://home.swbell.net/havehope/holytrin...
I believe there's only 1 God(1Tim.2:5) like you and Jesus is the Son of God(John 4:15) like the Bible says.
Most of the majority(Matt.7:13) lead people away from the Truth.
(KJV BIBLE)There are 3 that protestants claim about the trinity; they're JOHN 14 %26amp; 15 and 1JOHN 5:7. To start out 1JOHN 5:7 was never in any of the inspired Greek manuscripts; so this knocks out one. As for John 14 %26amp; 15; the Greek word for "helper" is paracletos; one who helps inwhich points to the Holy spirit. In Greek, the word "He" is neuter such as "hand" is feminine whether it is a woman's hand or male's hand. As for the word "paracletos" it is masculine and always require a masculine pronoun. This however doesn't prove personhood as you've noticed.
But as you've noticed, these texts don't prove Jesus is God or the Holy Spirit.
I don't believe in the TRINITY! The Bible texts that I'm going to mention contradict the Trinity teaching.
MATT.12:32 "AND WHOSOEVER SPEAKETH A WORD AGAINST THE SON OF MAN, IT SHALL BE FORGIVEN HIM: BUT WHOSOEVER SPEAKETH AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST, IT SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN HIM, NEITHER IN THIS WORLD, NEITHER IN THE WORLD TO COME."
JOHN 14:28 "IF YE LOVED ME, YE WOULD REJOICE, BECAUSE I SAID , I GO UNTO THE FATHER: FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I."
1COR.11:3 "BUT I WOULD HAVE YOU KNOW THAT THE HEAD OF EVERY MAN IS CHRIST; %26amp; THE HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN; AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD."
LUKE 18:19 "AND JESUS SAID UNTO HIM, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? NONE IS GOOD, SAVE ONE, THAT IS, GOD."
****SEVERAL OTHER TEXTS SAY THERE'S ONLY TWO PERSONS:
1COR.1:3; 8:6; 1TIM.1:2; 2:5; GAL.1:3; PHILIPP.1:2; ROM.1:7; 2COR.1:2-3; 1THESS.1:1; 2THESS.1:2; 2TIM.1:2; PHILEMON 1:3; 1PETER 1:3; 2PETER 1:2; 1JOHN 1:3; 2JOHN 1:3.
Now touching on the HOLY SPIRIT; the Holy Spirit is a power(Luke 1:35= "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the "Son of God.") where God and Jesus make their presence known in the hearts and minds of believers(1John 3:24 = "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us."). The believers of god and Jesus will have this love poured on them (Rom.5:5 = "And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given to us.") It will teach them understanding and wisdom of God's Word (John 14:16,17,20,23,26 = "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. At that day ye shall know that I am in the Father, and ye in me, and I in you. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.") Jesus had the Holy Spirit in him when he made the lame walk and the deaf to hear and etc.(Luke 5:15-17) God works in our minds to give us stength to overcome (Genesis 6:3 = "And the Lord said, my Spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.") Other texts are: John 7:38-39; Rom.8:11,13-14,16 and Psalm 104:30.
Also why I don't believe in the TRINITY is because it says in the KJV that the false church will cast all the truth to the ground (Daniel 8:12). I happen to know this false church because all the world has followed it (Rev.12:9; 13:3,12) except for one church (Acts 20:28).
Reply:Jesus is God
John 1:1
In the beginning was the WORD, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God.
John 1:10
He was in the World, and the world was (made by him) and the world knew him not.
John 8:24
I said, therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
John 8: 58-59
Jesus said unto them, Verily, Verily, I say unto you, Before Abrham was I am.
Reply:I'm not quite sure what your question is; If you get a chance to look at a Jerusalem Bible, or an old (1611) king james, then you can see there are diferent words in the hebrew that modern bibles translate as God, as Lord.
One of the important names of God is LORD of Lords, KING of Kings. While there are Lords (masters), there is one LORD over them all.
Likewise, the scripture says that: 'ye men are gods, and the scripture cannot be broken'. In the old testament, and I guess in those who have not repented and been baptised, then there is an ascendancy of angels which watch over them, since they are not of Christ, so are under delegated authority.
Reply:wow, what a great bible study u have here!! 1 faith, 1 Lord %26amp; 1 baptism - eph 4:3-6
Reply:John 1: 1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing has made that has been made. In Him was life, and that life was light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
I am the light of the world ( John 8:12 )
Reply:I think the verses you chose are ones that cannot stand alone, they are understandable when you look them up so you can tell what the topic is. I have a weird verse for you:
"As a dog returns to its vomit."- 1 or 2 Peter
Don't really know the reference.
Reply:God is the Father, Son and Holy spirit. There is nothing complicated about it. They are all one in the same.
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